asian spas in the met row atlanta area that killed eight people including six asian women. we're learning more about their identities and we'll share that with you in a moment. the suspect, 20-year-old man who local authorities say purchased his weapon hours before the shooting and was identified by his parents after law enforcement released surveillance images from one of the crime scenes. the associated press is just now reporting that he has been charged with murder and assault. attorney general merrick garland and fbi director christopher wray have briefed president biden on the shootings and a short while ago, biden weighed in on the tragedy. >> whatever the motivation here, i know that asian-americans are very concerned. you know i've been speaking out against the brutality of asian americans for the last couple of months. i think it is very, very troublesome.

>> lots to cover. joining us now, nbc news correspondent, former fbi special agent in charge and jim cavanaugh and georgia state representative. great to have all three of you with us. what do we know about the victims and how did law enforcement catch and identify the suspect so quickly? >> well, ayman, it really is a painful day here in atlanta in the wake of this massive shooting spree. we know eight people were killed. six of the victims were of asian descent. one person was also injured. this took place in about an hour or so yesterday around the 5:00 hour. initially, the first shooting location was in the cherokee county area of georgia, about 45 minutes from where we are right now. officials have just released some of the victims' names.

they include delaina ashley yaun, 33 years old, paul andre michels, 54, xiaojie yan, 49 and daoyuo feng, 44. they range in age from 54 to 33. how were they able to capture the suspect so quickly? apparently his parents alerted officials right away. his picture was plastered all over and they alerted officials and they were able to track him down as he was headed toward florida. they used a pit maneuver. they were able to literally stop him in his track and bring him into custody, ayman. >> okay. let's talk about the suspect here. the police referenced a sexual addiction at the locations, as we just heard. all the locations chosen were linked to asians.

they were believed to be at least asian-owned businesses. isn't this still -- can you make the argument there's still a racial-based hatred to these attacks? >> yes, absolutely. you know, we get confused when we think of motives as being exclusive. motives are often mixed. the human mind is a complicated thing. partly, we know for sure, that his motive is attacking these locations because he sees them as temptation. we know that's true, because he told the detectives that. but often when you're interrogating suspects, ayman they downplay some aspect of their crime. he could not downplay, by the way, i accidently pulled the trigger when i killed eight people but may be downplaying his complete motivation. we don't know for sure. how are we going to know? we have a living witness at the first shooting location, a male, 30 years old. did the killer make any statements during the assault?

i'm going to kill you because you're there, racial slurs, anything he might have said what might tell the rest of the story. certainly his social media, any of his postings, statements he has made in the past about asians could be telling. so, i don't think we should just say, oh, he said this, so it's so. i think that's part of the motive for sure. whether it's all of the motive, i'm not so sure. and, clearly, having investigated many, many crimes, it could be both. and i would describe that if it is both as a hate motive and a power motive, trying to eliminate his temptation. so there's a long way to go here. >> yeah. and it's important to emphasize, the investigation still ongoing. that is what law enforcement briefed the press and the public about. that's where we got that information from. representative wynn, our condolences to you and everyone in the community in georgia. talk to us what is going on with the asian-american community.

how are they handling this? what kind of action and response are you seeing? >> first, let me say this. i do believe that when we talk about this incident as a hate crime, it can't just be exclusive to whether or not the suspect in custody has used asian slurs, but it is very relevant, the history and the current sexualization of asian women in this country. so, the fact that he did target three businesses that are asian owned and six asian women are dead as a result of this, i think that still merits whether or not he admits it or recognizes it to be that way. and that is what many of our asian and asian american community members do feel here in georgia. we have experienced an increase in hate crimes over the last year, 150% increase across the country. and many of these crimes are targeted at asian women.

68% of the reported crimes are asian women being the victims. we know it's not just specific to this year in the pandemic, but it is also specific to the history of asian americans in our country, we have been the subject of violent brutality in the past. >> so, representative nguyen, what you just described there is what something people have been talking about. they're also talking about specific action. talk to us about the response from your colleagues in the georgia state house. do they understand the sense of urgency that you just presented, about the rise of api hate crimes? >> i'm not sure that they understand the urgency and rise of api hate crimes which stand from the beginning of the pandemic when the most powerful leader in our country assigned blame to china and, therefore, put a target on all asians

living in this country. we have seen that violence happen last year and this year. with most recently the targeting of our elderly on the west coast, it's garnered more attention. it shouldn't take tragedies like yesterday for my colleagues to understand that kind of phobia has to stop and it it ha has to start with the leaders. racialized motives like this one and they are calling for us to prosecute this as a hate crime. >> jim, the anti-defamation league has a new report out about how the instances of white supremacist propaganda, flyers, posters, banners almost doubled last year to more than 5,100 cases. online propaganda cases most likely reached into the millions. we have targeted so much of our attention on global extremism,

islamic. do agencies need to step up their game when it comes to investigating hate? >> absolutely, you asked the right question. i do agree with everything the representative said. targeting say big part of motive and it has to be put into the investigation. but this question is the seminole question, is law enforcement doing enough. the answer is no. every law enforcement agency, every major county and city agency should, at the minimum, have one hate crimes detective, at least one. for years, i've advocated that on the bottom of every police report, whether it takes a department to change it, the format, or the state law to change it, on the bottom of every uniform police report, should just be a simple box for the patrol officer to check, could this possibly be a hate

crime? not necessarily you absolutely ascertained it was. this is how we miss so many. could this possibly be a hate crime? check the box. that report is routed to the hate crimes detective in that county or city pd who has more of that training. all the officers and agents could be trained. the justice department could do more. the attorney general could throw atf deep into the fight against all these groups, violent extremists and anti-american groups that have attacked the capitol, that are involved in hate crimes deeper and deeper, not just as small numbers. atf was fighting these guys for years when was in there. we fought them for 50 years and largely have been put to the side on it. you don't have to pay them any more. they're already trained. throw them in deeper. let's get the police to have these hate crime officers, let's check the box. sometimes when you talk to a police officer, they want to say i wasn't sure it was.

i didn't know if it could be. maybe they said something. that's all we want to do. check the box. send it to the hate crimes detective. if it is, let's put a lot of resources on it. a hate crime is targeting people for who they are. that's why they're so important. >> and, of course, it also raises the important questions about gun control in this country, given what we've seen with this attack. representative nguyen, jim cavanaugh, kathy park, thank you. a message for the asian-american community not too long ago. watch. >> our country, the president and i, all of us, we grieve for the loss. we're not yet clear about the motive, but i do want to say to our asian-american community that we stand with you and understand how this has frightened and shocked and outraged. >> tomorrow morning, the house judiciary committee will hold a hearing on violence against asian americans. joining me now is democratic congresswoman judy chu of california, the chair of the

asian american caucus and testifying at that hearing. as you saw there and we've noted, violence and discrimination against asian-americans, they have been on the rise for years now. this is not a new phenomena. are you frustrated it's taken so much pain, suffering and tragedy for this pattern of action to get the attention it deserves on capitol hill and elsewhere? >> well, for a whole year, we were asking the justice department under the trump administration for a meeting to address the whys and anti-asian hate crimes due to donald trump's use of the words chinese virus, kung flu. department of justice should meet with the aapi community to address these issues that we started getting action. in fact, we in the congressional asian pacific caucus met with the justice department just last week. we also asked for a hearing in

the house judiciary committee, and that is happening tomorrow. and we're also calling for the passage of the no hate act, which would strengthen law enforcement's response to hate crimes and also improve the hate crime reporting methods in this country. >> congresswoman, i know that awareness is an important component in all of this. a lot of people might be watching this and asking, what do people need to do to be allies of the asian-american community as they go through this tragedy and this surge of attacks against them? >> we need to stand together in solidarity. and i have been so heartened by the rallies that have taken place in countries around the nation. multi-ethnic rallies, where people have stood together and said that we should not allow for these anti-asian hate crimes to occur. and, in fact, that solidarity on

all levels, on the local, the state and the federal level is very important. we are actually calling for a national speak out day against asian hate on march 26th. and at that time, we want to make sure that everybody from all sectors say that this cannot and should not happen. >> i know that we have witnessed a spike in violence against muslims and arabs in this country, in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. how much do you attribute the spike in anti-asian violence to the fears surrounding covid-19? i know there is a deep sense of anti-asian sentiment in this country, but the spike we've seen over the last year, how much do you attribute that to what we've seen with the pandemic? >> well, we started to see this anti-asian sentiment in january. and then when the lockdown happened in march, it accelerated. and a lot of that did have to do

with donald trump attributing everything to china and calling it the china virus, even though the cdc and the world health organization set to qualify a neutral name, covid-19 so as not to associate the disease with any ethnicity or geographic location because of the stigma it would cause. at that time, the anti-asian twitter traffic increased by 900%. we know that the usage of these terms by the president really stoked the flames of xenophobia and made it much worse. and, right now, we are experiencing the aftermath of that. that is why i think these crimes occurred. >> alluded to the current administration and president biden's executive order in the first week. straight up, is it enough? are we seeing enough of a reaction from the biden administration about this? what do you want to see done specifically to curb this trend

of anti-asian hate? >> well, our hate crime response in this country is not enough. there was a federal hate crime law passed in 1990, saying there should be collection of hate crime data but actually our local law enforcement agencies varied quite a bit in terms of whether they respond to it at all. whether they report something as a hate crime. in fact, training is practically nonexistent. so what we have to do is to have the grants for those programs that will train law enforcement. in fact, there are three states that don't even have a hate crime statute. how can we expect them to do anything on hate crimes? there's an estimation that there are 250,000 hate crimes per year but only 2.4% are ever reported. now, let me say that when we met with the department of justice because of biden's executive order, they were thinking about

programs like this. we want to work together to make sure these programs are implemented. >> congresswoman judy chu, thank you for your time. appreciate your insights as always. >> thuncht a new report confirms russian president vladimir putin authorized efforts to help president trump in the 2020 election. chris murphy of connecticut joins me next to weigh in on that, and more. we're monitoring the white house press briefing happening with education secretary cardona, joining press secretary jen psaki. you're watching msnbc. retary jen psaki. you're watching msnbc. stly wate. so, we switched back to tide. one wash, stains are gone. daughter: slurping don't pay for water. pay for clean. it's got to be tide. ♪ ♪ - [narrator] if you're thinking about going to school online, southern new hampshire university is where you belong. we've been online for more than 25 years and have helped thousands of students reach their goals.

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president's candidacy, china did not attempt to influence the u.s. election. chris murphy is a member of the committee on foreign relations, appropriations and health, education, labor and pensions. good to have you back on the program. give me your impressions and what you make of the findings of this report. did any of it surprise you at all? >> you know, i've been privy to the classified briefings and intelligence over the course of the past several years so there's not a lot that's surprising to me. all along, we knew that the trump administration was trying to use chinese and iranian efforts as a smokescreen. they were trying to elevate the threat of china and iranian interference to mask the fact that russia was engaged in a pretty significant and serious attempt to weigh in on trump's behalf. one of the most disturbing things of the last two years was the trump administration's refusal to acknowledge that this ukrainian politician was acting as a russian agent inside the united states.

this was the guy who was talking regularly to rudy giuliani, was showing up on american cable tv. this report now confirms that he was a russian agent and was operating at the direction of vladimir putin himself. the trump administration knew that, they knew that for a long time and refused to tell the american public. while he was able to spin lies about joe biden that helped trump's campaign. >> let me play for you and our viewers this exchange with former attorney general bill barr and what he had to say about foreign threats to the election last year. watch. >> of those three countries that the intelligence community has pointed to, russia, china and iran, which is the most assertive, the most aggressive in this area? >> i believe it's china. >> which one? >> china. >> china more than russia right now? >> yes. >> why do you say that? >> i've seen the intelligence. that's what i've concluded. >> senator, you also say you've

seen the intelligence and therefore he's not telling the truth. former bill barr, former dni ratcliff or robert o'brien who publicly stated that china was interfering to hurt trump? >> i've never seen that clip before. that's an extraordinary clip. the attorney general is just not telling the truth. there's no one, no one who actually read the intelligence who could come to the conclusion that china was a bigger threat than russia. and he's not testifying under oath when he's talking to wolf blitzer, so you would have to look to see whether he made those comments under the threat of perjury whether there would be consequences. the trump administration didn't want people to know that vladimir putin badly wanted the re-election of donald trump, was working really hard to get it. they used china to try to delude people into thinking there were much more serious threats. that's not to say that china doesn't have the capability to mess with an american election.

they could do so in the future. we shouldn't let our guard down. it's just not true that they were doing anything that the russians were doing in 2020. >> let's switch gears for a minute and talk about foreign policy. you've recommended changes, including the u.s. should avoid proxy wars and dismiss cold war era thinking about the danger of other world powers making a play for the region. walk us through how you think the biden administration could actually implement these changes, and do you think that this centrist president will make these changes? >> we've sold weapons to saudi arabia and united arab emirates but they were museum pieces. they didn't use the weapons. now they do. those countries are engaged in active conflicts in yemen, libya, and syria. our weapons are now being used to kill civilians in yemen, are being transferred to dangerous

militia groups inside libya. it's time for us to be a lot more careful about the weapons we sell into the middle east that end up fueling wars that make america less safe and get a lot of innocent people killed. president biden has been really sober-minded about this topic. he suspended u.s. participation in the yemen civil war. he put a halt on sales to the saudis and yemens, pending review. he understands that their conduct will have to improve. listen, in general, the middle east does matter a little less than it did back when we were almost wholly dependent on their oil. we now export more oil than we import. we import more oil from mexico than saudi arabia. it doesn't mean we should stop paying attention in the region. it just means we should be more picky about when we intervene. >> staying on this for one more, in an interview with abc last night, president biden defended his decision not to punish

saudi's crown prince mohammed bin salman, saying it would be diplomatically unprecedented to pun ush a head of state of a country we have an alliance with. do you agree with biden on that? and if not, what action should this administration be taken against mbs? who, although he is the de facto ruler, not the head of state. >> it is important that he is the de facto ruler. when we change policy to saudi arabia, it has an impact on mohammed bin salman. i agree with the biden administration that it's much more wise to change your policy and sanction a nation rather than going after individual leaders. we've not engaged in individual sanctions against vladimir putin in the past. mohammed bin salman cares much more about the weapons we sell him than he does about his visa to the united states. if you really want to have an impact n him, if you really want to deliver a consequence for his

role in the murder of jamal khashoggi, stop selling them precision-guided missiles that he uses inside yemen. that would have a much bigger impact. the biden administration has made a lot of the right moves here. i know it doesn't satisfy everybody but is maybe the biggest critic in the united states senate, i appreciate that they're setting the policy. >> he suggested he would be open to reforming at least allowing talking filibusters. where do you come down on that? do you feel that's enough or the filibuster should be completely removed? >> i'm open to a lot of different ideas here. here is what i know. my constituents back home, people in connecticut, they do not care about process. they just want congress to deliver for them. they don't care that the american rescue plan passed through reconciliation, if it passed with or without a filibuster. they just care that their kids' schools will be getting money, that vaccinations will be produced faster.

we have to realize that this process conversation is a totally inside the belt way conversation and if we don't start delivering results at 50 or 60 votes, all of our time here is going to be short. >> chris murphy from connecticut. thank you for your time. greatly appreciate it. >> thank you. up next, as the race to vaccinate the nation continues, major inequities are surfacing from state to state. what one colorado doctor is doing to ensure that doesn't happen in his community and why the governor doesn't like it. in less than 24 hours, a house sub judiciary committee will hold a hearing on violence against asian americans since the start of the covid-19 pandemic. andy kim of new jersey will join us straight ahead. you're watching msnbc. you're watching msnbc. i'm a verizon engineer, part of the team that built 5g right. the only one from america's most reliable network. we designed our 5g to make the things you do every day, better.

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the u.s. recorded 62,000 covid-19 cases yesterday. here are the facts. after setting everyone's sites on the goal of a return to normalcy in time for perhaps the july 4th celebrations, president biden gave more specifics on what americans need to do to make that happen. >> nrd to meet the july 4th deadline unless people listen,

wear masks and wash their hands and socially distance. not everyone by july 4th will have been vaccinated. >> meanwhile, world health organization is recommending that countries continue to use the astrazeneca vaccine after a dozen countries stopped using it over concerns. today, the palestinian authority received 60,000 vaccine doses through the world health organization's covax program, the first up in commitment to provide enough doses over the course of this year for a million palestinians. and before a house committee hearing on vaccines, a new push from the director of the cdc who end what she calls the longstanding inquities that prevent us from getting health care for all. in colorado, a doctor running a vaccination clinic and a neighborhood dominated by immigrants and refugees, is at a

battle with the state over the best way to get those shots in the arms of minorities at high risk. i'm joined by nbc national correspondent chris jansing at that clinic. what can you tell us about that debate there? >> reporter: i can tell you, ayman, what's happening here gets to the heart at the whole debate over how to deal with health care inequities. the vaccination clinic sits right outside this family medicine clinic that has been run by dr. palmer, and has been for ten years. one of the poorest in the state was going to be hit hard. they couldn't work from home. they had to go to their jobs. in fact, his positivity rate on testing, and he did thousands of tests, was 25 to 50%. they lost a lot of folks in this neighborhood. so it was a no brainer to set up a vaccination clinic, right? here was the problem. this neighborhood has only about

20% whites. the number of people getting vaccinated were about 50% white. so he did this. this is what got him into trouble with the governor. coronavirus vaccines only for people in this zip code and they have to show an i.d. with an address. he said he and the people working for him were giving far too many vaccines to people from the richer suburbs, white folks, as he says, from the richer suburbs who then could come here. well, the governor said you have to serve everybody. here is why dr. parmar says he's not right about that. >> the governor's policy in this state, as it has been standing, that's what we call equality. it's a great concept but it's different from equity. equity, the concept is folks who have had maybe a little shorter end of the stick for many reasons in life, physically disabled and culturally disabled, economically disabled, you give them a little taller ladder. you don't give everybody the

same height ladder. whether i'm discriminating against a richer population, what's not going away is the discrimination against the poorer populations. >> the state says this policy is discriminatory. the governor's office gave a statement that reads in part, identification and proof of residency are barriers to access to many coloradons and disproportionately affect those in our immigrant communities and coloradons without a home. dr. parmar is allowing folks to walk in. but if you don't live in this zip code, you have to get an appointment and there's a long waiting list. you spent many years working overseas, reporting on these issues. i know you know the challenges facing refugees. folks here come from places like ethiopia, rwanda, iraq. they're very grateful for what's happening here. what it also points to is disagreement about how to deal

with it. both sides in this debate want the same thing. they want people vaccinated. but it points to that larger issue that the doctor is talking about. months from now when hopefully there are enough vaccines for everybody, do we drop this whole issue with equity or do we look at this and say this did shine a light on how minorities, refugees are underserved in the health care community and we have to do something about it? the biden administration says it's at the heart of their plan. they're waiting to see exactly how it happens. >> fascinating report and it does highlight how complex this vaccine rollout has been to make sure everyone does get those doses. chris jansing in colorado for us. thank you, my friend. we'll speak to andy kim of new jersey about efforts to tackle discrimination against asian-americans in the wake of last night's shooting rampage in georgia. the senate has unanimously confirmed katherine tai as the

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all right. we are following breaking news out of the atlanta area where a man is accused of killing eight people, including six asian-american women on tuesday. earlier today, law enforcement officials briefed the public on the latest investigation, where a motive has not yet been determined. the killings come as the number of anti-asian hate incidents are on the rise according to the group stop asian-american pacific island hate. joining me now is democratic congressman of new jersey, andy kim. congressman kim, great to have you with us. what went through your mind when you heard about last night's shooting? >> thank you. it's been hard. it has been. i learned about this, the killings, while i was getting my kids to bed last night.

and immediately went through my mind, again, how does this keep happening? and who is safe? how do i make sure that my family is safe? my mother, my father is safe? when we see just the continued violence leading up to this, what we know is it's not over. and we have to make sure that we're sitting down and committing ourselves to try to deal with how to fix this. >> i know you mentioned you heard about this last night as you were putting your kids to sleep. you have a remarkable story. you're the son of immigrants yourself and now have children of your own. how has this personally impacted your family? how do you talk about the kinds of tragedies and hate that we're seeing? >> it hits us very personally. and, you're right. i'm the son of immigrants, married to an immigrant. i've experienced a lot of this discrimination firsthand. i've had instances where people yell profanity at me and racist remarks at me over the last year, pushing me away because they're worried they're going to get coronavirus just simply because i'm asian-american.

i felt it. i've seen this. i see the fear in my mother when she goes to the grocery store sometimes because of the experiences that she has had. and i think about what kind of world, what kind of america are my two baby boys going to grow up in when we have this level of hatred and animosity within our society and our communities here. i'm very fearful of it. i don't have all the answers. this is something we need to maek sure we're giving attention to, though. that's an important start and that's why i'm grateful to you and others who are highlighting this. >> congressman, have you experienced any of what you've described in the halls of congress? >> in the halls of congress, no. i haven't had any direct racist experience there. i will say when i worked at the state department, for instance, i was a top secret security clearance, worked in iraq, afghanistan and elsewhere. but one day i was told by the state department i was banned on

working on anything in the korean peninsula. for some reason because of my last name, my heritage, even though i was born in the united states, i was banned on working on issues because of concerns about my loyalty. that xenophobia, that type of issue is something very personal. and it hurt. i'll be honest, it hurt that my country didn't trust me. that is something that i've experienced, and i carry that with me. >> that's a very troubling story. have you shared that before with anyone? have you talked about the fact that somebody at the state department told you that? >> i have. it took me a while to be able to talk about it, because part of me wants to keep my head down, keep working and show through my hard work that this is something that is wrong. but i've come to see we can't just assume that these issues of

racism are going to get better. this is not just like some path we're on that will immediately fix this. we have to stand up and speak out. i haven't always been able to say what i need to say at the right moment, which is why i feel so motivated right now to speak out on behalf of the victims and many others that are really frighten sfld we're grateful for you sharing that experience with us. sorry you had to go through that. some have racialized the virus during the pandemic. most prom meantly is former president trump. he did so again last night on fox news. have you had any conversations any of your colleagues about the possible repercussions of this racial language he and others continue to use? >> absolutely. this is something that i have raised. we have a resolution on the house floor last year, condemning this type of behavior and, again, what we kept hearing from my colleagues is just

trying to change the subject. rather than confronting it head on and recognizing it's not right, that's not how we should be talking about the challenges in the community, this is not something that we should be -- i'm hopeful that we can turn the corner. we have a hearing tomorrow raising this issue of violence. i'm hopeful hopeful we can pass legislation in a bipartisan way. >> andy kim, thank you so much for sharing your story and insights. greatly appreciate it. >> thank you. up north carolina, we are tracking a busy day in washington as an immigration crisis at the southern border looms over the white house. we've got major headlines from today's hearing with homeland security secretary mayorkas. plus, president biden's

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correspondent jennifer alba and leighann caldwell. what was the big takeaway from the hearing? >> reporter: republicans really tried to get mayorkas to say what was happening on the border was a crisis, something that he refused to do. said that language isn't important. they're trying to deal with the situation. he turned the tables saying what he called a crisis is when the u.s. government ripping children away from their parents under the trump administration. what i didn't hear much of from republicans, democrats or mayorkas today is a solution how to get what is happening on did border under control. >> monica, current and former border officials say that the biden administration is restricting what information they can share with the media and the media hasn't gotten

access to facilities where the children are being held. how's the white house responding to those issues? >> reporter: press secretary psaki was pressed on this and in effect he continued to refer reporters to the department of homeland security. she acknowledged that those requests have been ongoing and she didn't really have a very detailed answer or explanation for why also now there have been many ride along requests denied, that's something that was accommodated in the trump administration and put to her in those terms and she said they're trying to work on getting access to the facilities but that she wanted others to talk about it. when the dhs secretary asked he said in effect we are trying to be as transparent as possible but clearly there's mounting pressure. something else that the press secretary noted in the last few minutes or so is obviously the

president continues to be briefed and she was asked why not share the video and photos and she said there's a concern of minors in the images and have to be redacted and something they might be considering but clearly up until this point they have chosen not to share those and not to allow journalists in to see what's happening. >> directly pivot to the director of national intelligence releasing a report confirming that the russians tried to interfere in the last election. what is biden doing about it? >> reporter: that intelligence points the finger at vladimir putin himself saying that he was the one who authorized the efforts to try to thwart then candidate joe biden's attempts to be president. biden met with putin and dealt with him not showing the cards

on how he wants to respond but hinting at what he might do in this interview overnight. >> he will pay a price. we had a long talk. i know him relatively well and the conversation started off, i said i know you and you know me. be prepared. >> you said you know he doesn't have a soul. >> i did say that and his response was we understand one another. >> asking if vladimir putin is a killer he does believe that and he said there's areas of mutual interest but sanctions on the table, something that the biden administration has already done over the poisoning of navalny. >> finally, in an interview with abc news the president was asked about the filibuster hours after mitch mcconnell threatened to grind the chamber to a halt if

it was changed. >> you have to do what it was when i got to the senate in the old days when you used to be around there. and that is, that a filibuster, had to stand up and command the floor and you had to keep talking along. you couldn't call for -- no one could say, you know, quorum call. someone could move in and say i move the question of. you have to work for the filibuster. >> what did democrats think about the president's comments and will republicans jump on board with that reform? >> reporter: republicans won't jump on board. mcconnell said the filibuster is not broken. there are some democrats that welcome the biden comments and the big question is, are they willing to remove the 60-vote threshold from the filibuster? that is still controversial even

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hi there, everyone. it is 4:00 in the east. we are watching a fight for the rules of the political battles ahead on the floor of the u.s. senate today. in one corner a party refusing to right the wrongs from the big lie told by the last president that led to the deadly insurrection and is now fueling voter suppression laws thinly disguised as election security measures. in the other corner, newly elected senator warnock on the senate floor with an impassioned call for action on